If my kittens spay incision is scabbing does that mean it is healed. Can she run & jump now?

My name is***** am a veterinarian with over 30 years of experience, and I will do my best to help you. How long ago was your kitten's spay? Can you post a picture of her incision here for me to see?

Hello and thank you for using Just Answer today.

My name is***** am a veterinarian with over 30 years of experience, and I will do my best to help you.   How long ago was your kitten's spay?   Can you post a picture of her incision here for me to see?

Customer

She is 5 months old and was spayed on Monday. Her brother was neutered. I also have two adult cats

Customer

I will send a picture

Thanks for the information.   If she has a good dry scab on the incision and is eating well, she is probably healing normally.   Her internal incision is held together with long lasting sutures that will eventually dissolve.

Customer

Picture

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Picture 2

That looks really good.   It is probably safe to let her be as active as she wants to be.

Customer

Really? So she can run & play on cat towers

Customer

Even though it’s only been a few days?

I would keep checking the incision for swelling.   Maybe start off with playing but not the cat towers for another day or so.

Customer

Ok no towers but she can run and play with her brother & other cats. I won’t get her internally

Customer

She can jump on the bed & on the couch

That should be safe.

Customer

Omg really I thought it would have to be longer

Customer

Does it look like a dry scab? Her surgery was Monday. I have had her in our bathroom since surgery and giving her sedation

Ideally, it should be but it is hard to keep a kitten confined for long.  The younger they are spayed, the faster they usually heal.

Customer

She is 5 months so she is probably pretty much healed?

Probably.  It looks really good in the picture.

I would not let her outdoors until next week.

Customer

Ok I have to send one more to be sure

Customer

She stays indoors

That is good.

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running ok. Playing ok & jumping on furniture & bed ok

It should be, but keep checking her incision for swelling or redness.

Customer

It should be .. there my doubt creeping in again

Customer

But in your opinions he looks healed?

It looks healed.  I would have to be able to feel her internal incision with my hand to tell you more, and I can't do that here!   But that incision is usually closed with strong long-lasting sutures.

Customer

We do have this tower but nowhere to put it so she can’t get on it

Customer

The top layer was surgical glue

Yes, I can see that.

Customer

What do I do about that tower

Customer

Is there something I can feel to know that it’s healed

Customer

should I keep her kitty suit on

Customer

By the way you are wonderful

It takes experience to learn to feel an internal incision.   You can have it checked by the veterinarian who spayed her.  What is her kitty suit?

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with kittens it does heal quicker

I don't think she needs that suit.   Young cats and slim cats tend to heal faster.

Customer

it won’t take 14 days she’s good now

Customer

That’s what the vet said as far as keeping her quiet

Customer

Is that the normal time for an adult cat not a kitten right

I can only tell you what I would do if she were mine, and I would be allowing her to be loose in the house with my other cats.   The internal healing can take 14 days, but I don't usually restrict activity that long.

Customer

What is the average time for a kitten to heal from this type of surgery

Customer

Is there anyway she can get hurt internally from playing with her brother. Or is she safe when the incision is healed

The internal healing can take 14 days or even longer, but those stitches don't dissolve for a few weeks or longer.

Customer

Is there anyway she can get hurt internally from playing with her brother. Or is she safe when the incision is healed

Customer

Sorry I’m just a wreck about all this. It’s my first spay

There is always a way to get hurt if she plays too rough or falls.   It is not very likely.   I can only tell you what I would do if she were mine and the incision looked this good.

Customer

Ok thank you. How long should I monitor her

Customer

is that tower safe

Next week the tower should be safe.

Customer

I have nowhere to put that big one

Customer

by when next week

I would let her use the tower a week after her surgery.

Customer

I don’t have any place to put it to hide it. What do I do?

It is very hard to keep a kitten from running and playing soon after the spay.   They usually feel pretty good, which is a sign of healing.  Can you put it in a room behind a door?   What are you doing now?

Customer

There’s no door for that room and I don’t have any place to put it.

Customer

I have had her in my bathroom since her surgery

I see.  All I can say is that I have spayed thousands of cats, and have not seen many cases, if any, of problems after the first few days if the incision looks this good.

If you feel safer keeping her in the bathroom a few more days, then that is OK too.

Customer

I was going to wait until Saturday

That would be OK.

Customer

Would she be able to go on a tower by then or wait until Monday

Customer

Oh and once she is out fo I need to be here to monitor her play

I can't say for sure since I can't examine her.  There is not an exact answer for how many days to wait; it is different in each case.   If she were mine I would let her be more active and let her out of the bathroom,  but keep her from the tower at first to see how it goes.

Customer

Ok I understand. If her brother should get rough and possibly hit her in the stomach would that injure her internally

Customer

You are just wonderful

As long as the incision looks this good, and she is eating normally, she is healing and her activity is not keeping her from healing normally.  I doubt her brother could hit her in that specific way; he can't make a fist and punch her.

Customer

Lol I know but he uses his back legs & kicks her when they play

I see.  I would try to discourage that.

I would monitor their play, and keep her in the bathroom when you can't monitor them if he is going to do that.

Customer

I’m over thinking this Right

Customer

For how long

Probably.   Most kittens do fine and I know many owners don't confine them at all from the time they come home.

Maybe keep him from kicking her until it has been a week.

Customer

Oh my God I’m so anxious about this

Customer

Ok so Monday

Customer

You are wonderful

You are welcome.  I am pretty sure she is going to be just fine.

At the shelter where I work, we spay feral cats and then turn them loose where there were found 2 days later.  The caregivers for the feral cat colonies rarely report problems.

Customer

Wow really ?

Please let me know if you have other questions and how she is doing. I will be logged on for a few more hours. After that, you can still post additional questions and updates about this by going to My Questions on the Just Answer website and I will respond the next time I am logged on. I will also be following up with you.  Thank you for using Just Answer.

Customer

I think I’ll keep her in the bathroom till Saturday. And then normal activity on Monday right

That sounds like a good plan.

Customer

Thank you!

Customer

I will keep you updated

Please do!

Customer

Thank you again

You are welcome!

Customer

How long before the scab actually falls off the incision

Customer

With the scabbing Does that mean she’s pretty much healed? Or would it be after the scab falls off?

Customer

How long does it take the gabapentin to get out of her system

I am sorry I was not logged on when you got back to me.   How is she today?   The scab will fall off when it is ready, and when the underlying skin is healed.

How soon gabapentin wears off depends on the dose she got; it can take 8 to 24 hours.

Customer

No problem. :)

Customer

How long does it normally take for the underlying skin to heal

That varies from cat to cat but around a week.

Customer

I think I asked this already but can she play on the tower with her brother? Or should I wait until it is a week

I thought you decided yesterday to wait until Mondy for that, but it is up to you.   I probably would let her try it under supervision at first.

Customer

This morning when she went to the litter box I don’t know if it’s anything or not but when she Peed she didn’t squat down all the way. Could that be due to the gabapentin that’s in her system?

Customer

Ok

Customer

When she did P it squirted out on to the floor

I am not sure why she did that.  It could be from gabapentin.   You can try stopping it; she may not need it 5 days after her surgery.

Customer

I’m not giving it to her anymore. Last night I gave her a small dose and that’s it

Customer

Her surgery was Monday morning do you consider that five full days of healing?

I would probably not be giving gabapentin after this much time if she were mine, unless I wanted to use it to keep her mildly sedated.

Customer

Not giving it to her anymore

That is probably best.

Customer

Her surgery was Monday morning do you consider that five full days of healing?

I guess it is not five full days.   If she were mine I would be letting her have run of the house,  under supervision at first.

Customer

I’m going to let her out today I just want to make sure the gabapentin is out of her system. I gave it to her at 8 o’clock last night

She should be okay; let me know how she does.

Customer

let her out now?

Customer

Ok

Let me know how she does today.

Customer

Ok I will

Thank you.

Customer

Hi

I hope you have a good day.  We are celebrating snow here in the desert at last.

Customer

We are too. Snow in the desert ? Lol

The high desert.   We get cold winters and normally we get snow.

Customer

Where do you live

New Mexico.   7000 feet above sea level; higher than Denver.

Customer

Omg. :) that’s high up. Bet it is beautiful there

Customer

I live in Ohio. We lots of snow here but it’s going to be 60 tomorrow

Wierd weather.

Customer

I know and Sunday cold again

Very strange.

Customer

Can I put the towers back tomorrow. They are bored & worried they might get into things

That is up to you.  I probably would.

Customer

wait till tomorrow or put them back today

That has to be up to you.   You sound more cautious and worried than I personally would be.  I probably would let her start normal activity, including the towers, and monitor her if she were my cat.

Customer

My boy Seems to be a little rough

Customer

What shouldn’t I let her do

I would not let her brother kick her in the stomach for at least a few more days.

Customer

That’s what I’m worried about

Customer

What if he did

If he kicked too hard the scab might come off or she could bleed.

Customer

Good lord

Customer

That’s why am worried

Customer

Bleed internally

Customer

Hi

Probably not internal bleeding, just her skin and incision.

Customer

What Do I do if that happens

I would separate them, and clean up the scratched area with soap and water.  The bleeding probably won't go on for long if this happens.

Customer

Will that hurt her internally? Do anything to the stitches inside

Customer

it will take longer for her to heal? If it does happen should I put her back in the bathroom

I can't tell you what is best unless it actually happens and can see what her stomach looks like if it does.

It is unlikely he could hurt the internal stitiches.

Customer

Ok

Customer

I’m so Anxious

Customer

I can’t look at her incision she won’t let me

Customer

She is a squirmer

I am sorry you are anxious.   I can only say that 95% or more of cats her age that are spayed have no post op complications even when they are not monitored and are left outside and alone.   She is probably fine.

Customer

Ok sorry. This is all new to me

If you are worried have the veterinarian who spayed her look at her.

Customer

Ok

Customer

Would it stress her out too much if I brought her back to the vet

Probably not if she is in a carrier.

Sorry for the delays in my answer.  This is when I work, so I am answering other questions.

Customer

No problem

Thank you for understanding.

Customer

Is there anyway I can call you

Customer

My vet just said no running or a lot of activity

Customer

I can’t keep her confined for 10 days. That’s what they want me to do

I can't make or take calls for the website, and I really have told you all I can.   When I spay young cats, I don't usually confine them that long including my own.

Customer

Why would they tell me that? They’re insistent on keeping her not very active for 10 days

Every veterinarian makes different recommendations.  I can only say what I would do.   I think you are, in your own words, overthinking this.   Most young cats have no problems after being spayed no matter how active they are.

Customer

Ok. I understand. They just kept telling me it’s only been four days and she could still rip stiches open. They told me even though it’s scabbing that doesn’t mean it’s healed after four days and she could get hurt. I guess I just got a let it be

They are her veterinarians.  If you are worried, have them look at her.

Customer

I’m not worried about the incision I just wanted him to check it. But she said they still want her not active10 days no matter what he sees

I am sorry they won't look at it.

Customer

They said they would look at it but they’re not going to change their mind about the time they want her in active

Then if it makes you feel safe and less anxious, continue her confinement.

Customer

That’s the problem I don’t want to keep het confined. I feel so bad for her. She is all alone in our bathroom. I go in there all the time to keep her company. I trust you and what you say. I’m anxious because they are making me worry about her playing

This has to be your choice.  I have told you I would let her out if she were mine.   You have to make the decision what is best for her.

I will be logged off for a few hours soon but back later today.

Customer

Ok

I am sure you will do what is best for both of you.

Customer

I hope I do. This is taking a toll on me

Customer

Thank you

Customer

Just one more question before you log off. Could she still at this point rip her stitches even with the scabbing

That is unlikely but I can't say 100% it couldn't happen.

Customer

Ok. Sorry I’m bothering you with all these questions

I just wish I could put your anxiety at ease.  This is not concerning at all in nearly all spays.   I really do have to go now but will be back later.

Customer

Ok thank you

You are welcome.

Customer

Pic 1 from this morning

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Pic 2

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Pic 3

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Good morning. Does it look ok to you? Especially pic 2

Yes, I think it looks good.

Customer

Is it almost healed?

I would have to be able to touch and examine her to answer that honestly.

Customer

What would you be looking for if you touch it and examine it?

Customer

She doesn’t care if I touch it and it doesn’t feel warm or anything

I would be palpating beneath the skin, feeling to see if everything feels as it should.

Customer

Palpitating beneath the skin?

That is how I would examine her, by palpating (feeling) the area both the skin and deeper.

It is something that takes practice and experience to do.

Customer

I know :) I was just wondering what it was that you do

It is hard to describe in this chat.

Customer

I understand. :) From just looking at it does look like it’s pretty healed

Customer

You are the expert :)

Customer

I’m the anxious mom

I really think she is going to be OK.

Customer

Ok should I leave the suit in her so she doesn’t lick it.

Customer

is it safe for her to run, Jump & play now?

I personally would not have used the suit at all.   It is probably safe to let her run but since I can't see and examine her myself I can't say that for 100% sure.

Customer

Ok I guess I shouldn’t let her then

Customer

I thought would stop her from licking that’s why I used it

Customer

Sorry for all the questions

We are here to answer questions!

Customer

Thank you for saying that :)

It is true!   I understand you are worried and anxious about her.

Customer

I just wanna make sure I am doing the right thing for her

Customer

She is my baby girl

I understand.

Customer

Thank you <3

You are welcome.

Customer

Should I wait until Monday to let her run & play

That is up to you.   You know what her veterinarian says, and what I have said, but you have to do what feels right for you and for her.

Customer

What if she starts licking it?

Customer

Her vet said 14 days.

Licking is normal and should not hurt the incision.

Customer

Omg really they said it would

Chewing might be harmful but not licking.

Customer

My head is spinning.

Customer

They said 14 days no running,jumping

Customer

I don’t know what to do

I can only tell you what I have said already what I would do.  There is no right or wrong.

Customer

My biggest concerns are ripping open or one if the other cats hurting her

Customer

It’s been 5 days. Should I been less worried?

Customer

Should I be

If she were mine I would not be worried about this.

Customer

Ok.I know I’m overthinking. So sorry

Nothing to apologize for.

Customer

I don’t know why I am having such a tough time with this

I am sorry that you are.

Customer

Thank you

Customer

OK from looking at it does she look ok

Her skin incision looks fine.

Customer

Hi

Customer

Thank you

You are welcome.

Customer

The very bottom looks like it is bleeding

Customer

Around where the skin is overlapped

Can you post a picture of this?

Customer

I will try to get one

Thank you.

Customer

Having trouble getting one I’ll keep trying

Take your time.  I will be logged on for another hour or so.

Customer

Ok thanks

You are welcome.

Customer

This is a bad idea letting her out she’s going crazy. Still trying to get a picture

Thanks for the update.

Customer

Pic

Customer

It looks bad right?

Not at all!   I think it looks good.

Customer

What about at the very bottom where it looks so red

Looks normal to me and I have spayed thousands of cats.

Customer

ok Can you just explain it to me why it looks like it’s so red like that. Is that in danger of opening up

That is normal healing.

Customer

Oh my God I was so worried it was bleeding

Customer

Can you just explain to me why it’s red. It looks like it’s sore. So no danger of it opening up?

Customer

My vet said if it looks red to bring her in. But if you say that’s normal ok

It is red because that is what normal healing looks like. It will fade as healing progresses.    I really am an expert on this topic.

Customer

Can I put anything on it like vitamin e

Customer

I know you are. Thank you

If I had spayed her myself I would be thrilled it looks this good now.   You can put on vitamin E but I don't know if it will help.  It may make her lick at this more than she needs to if you apply ointment.

Customer

Ok I won’t put it on.

Customer

How many days before the redness goes away

That is up to her individual healing process.   One to 7 days.

The redness is nothing to worry about.  It is normal.

Customer

Ok I just looked at it again it looks like it’s bleeding but I guess it isn’t

It is not bleeding in the picture.

Customer

is that scabbing

Not exactly.   Normal skin healing.

It is a little frustrating that you don't seem to take my word that this is normal looking.

You could seek a second opinion here on Just Answer if that would help you.

Customer

I trust you

Customer

Sorry

Customer

I believe you. I just panicked.

Customer

Please don’t stop talking to me

I understand.  This really does look good.

Customer

ok. So sorry. You are the only one who’s been honest in the only one I trust. I didn’t mean to offend you if I did

I am not offended but It is a little frustrating to answer the same question multiple times.

Customer

I’m sorry

I know you are worried.

Customer

I am. Sorry if I’m driving you crazy with this

Customer

I never had a kitten spayed before. I really do appreciate all your time that you have given me. I’ll try to limit the questions

You are welcome.

Customer

Have a good day

Thank you!    Happy holidays!

Customer

Same to you !

Thank you.

Customer

She tore her stiches at emergency vet. They had to put staples in

Oh, no!   I am glad you got her to a vet for staples.

Customer

What do I do now

Customer

I’m so upset

The staples will hold her skin together.   The internal stitches are the really important ones and must still be OK.   I would follow the directions of the veterinarian who put in the staples.

Customer

They didn’t mention internal stiches

That is because those are OK.  They would have told you if they were not.   Those are the important stitches.   The staples only hold the skin together; the internal stitches hold her body wall together.

Customer

Ok

The skin healing leaves a nicer scar, but the internal stitches are the ones that hold the surgery together.  Those won't start to dissolve for weeks or even months.

Customer

CSo as long as the skin is healed that’s the important part

Customer

No activity at all

The important part is the part you can't see, the internal sutures.

Customer

Sorry just really upset right now.

I understand. She will heal.

Customer

Don’t know how I’m going to keep her quiet for another week. Going to have to give her the gabapentin every day

That will help keep her quiet.

Customer

Ok

I will be around all weekend, on and off.

Customer

Thank you

You are welcome.   You and she will get through this.

Customer

I hope so. I’m a wreck

I am sorry to hear that.

Customer

Thank u

Customer

What can & can’t she do

I would go by what the emergency vet said.

Customer

They gave me antibiotic.I just gave her gabapentin should I wait to give her antibiotic

I would give it as directed.

Customer

I just mean is it OK to give it to her since I just paid for the gabapentin

I don't understand what paying for gabapentin has to do with taking antibiotics.

Customer

I meant I just gave her gabapentin. Do I have to wait to give her the anabiotic or is it safe to give it to her now.

You can give them together.

Customer

Ok thank you. Sorry a little frazzled

Customer

Can the staples get infected?

Customer

Is that why they gave to me

I don't know why they gave you antibiotics; you would have to ask them.

Customer

Ok

Let me know how she is doing.

Customer

Does gabipenton liquid need to refrigerated. They didn’t tell me

If it needs refrigeration that would be indicated on the label.

Customer

Great I have had it since Monday and haven’t refrigerated it. Is it no good now? Should I not give it to her. I have been

Customer

Is it ok if it was supposed to and I didn’t. I can’t read the label now. It rubbed off

I just "googled' this; it is not supposed to be refrigerated.

Customer

Omg One site said it should another said it shouldn’t

Customer

Thank you for looking it up.

Can you tell me the exact name of the type of gabapentin liquid?   I am still searching and finding the same thing; some should be and some should not be refrigerated.

When we dispense anything that needs refrigeration we put a bright sticker on the label saying so.

Customer

Pic

This looks like it may be a compounded prescription.   The only way to know for sure if it needs refrigeration would be to ask the veterinarian who dispensed it.  SInce no refrigeration sticker is on it, it may not be necessary.

Customer

Ok thanks. I don’t know why the label rubbed off but I can’t see it. I put it in the fridge now. So should I take it out.

Customer

What do you mean compounded prescription

Customer

I honestly don’t remember seeing a sticker but I’m not sure

Coumpounded means made up by a pharmacy special, in a form that is not the standard concentration.

I don't know what to say; some should not be in the frig.   You will have to contact the vet who dispensed it.

Customer

Is it safe that I have it to her

Customer

Why do you think it’s compounded

Because it is 50 mg per ml and it is not made in that strength commercially.   Veterinarians have to have it compounded  by pharmacies for our small patients.

Customer

Thank you.

Customer

How active can she be staples

Not much for the first few days especially.

Customer

Not even walking?

She can walk, but not jump.

Customer

Ok

Have a good Sunday.

Customer

She is scratching at the door in bathroom will that hurt her.

Customer

I do stop her quickly

Scratching should not hurt her.

Don't forget, the internal stitches have been healing for almost a week now and those are the important ones.

Customer

Thank you so much <3

You are welcome.

Customer

When you said keep her quiet for a few days, by when? Tuesday?

Customer

When are internal stitches healed?

Again, it is hard to say specifically without being able to examine her myself.   The internal stitches should be pretty well healed by Tuesday.

Customer

Ok. Thank you. How about the outer incision.

Customer

It really upsets me to look at the staples but do I need to check them and what do to look for

You can check them to see if they are all there and that the area is dry and not swollen.

Customer

Ok Do they get swollen if it’s infected?

Or from inflammation.

Customer

What causes the inflammation

Customer

I haven’t checked them since we got home yesterday

Customer

I’m afraid to look

Then don't; just keep taking care of her and loving her.

Customer

I’m doing that. But it’s OK if I don’t look

Customer

Ok thank you again

Customer

Have a good day

Customer

The staples came out

Oh no!   How does the incision look?   Can you post a picture?

Customer

Pic

Customer

That was just before I took her to emergency vet

Customer

I had someone look at it that owns a rescue and experience with kittens. she said it looks really good. Said it is closed and incision looks good.

Customer

Not sure what the vet saw that she needed staples

I am not sure either.  I thought it looked good.     I work today so I will not be logged on until tomorrow.

Customer

Ok have good day

Thank you.

Customer

I know you’re off-line but I just wanted to send you a picture of the incision from last night

That looks really good.   I would not have put staples in this.

Today is my day at the shelter.  I will be back tomorrow.

Customer

Ok thank you.

You are welcome.

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